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Reminder: we are working on the song Life, an original composition:


(mp3 file)

To record the vocals, I used a Rode NT5, a small-diaphragm condenser microphone that I also use for recording theater plays. It's a compact mic with a small diaphragm and excellent sensitivity. I find it more effective and faithful than the Shure SM57 dynamic mic I used previously. The high-end reproduction, in particular, is much better with the Rode, and the overall sound feels more open and airy. Like all condenser microphones, it requires 48V phantom power, which I activated on my preamp. The mic is connected via an XLR cable to my AudioBuddy transistor preamp by M-Audio—an affordable and very transparent preamp that adds no coloration or hiss—which is then linked to my audio interface.

In the song Life, there is one lead vocal track and two backing vocal tracks. These are recordings of my own voice using the Rode NT5. However, there are also two vocal tracks created with Miroslav Philharmonik, a virtual instrument software for classical sounds (violins, flutes, etc.), so I composed these virtual vocal parts on a MIDI track.

Here is the list of plugins I used for the vocals:
* FinalPlug by Wave Arts, a limiter
* Miroslav Philharmonik by IK Multimedia, a very comprehensive virtual philharmonic orchestra. It's not the absolute best, and it's quite old, but it remains excellent and especially unmatched at its current price (€120). I mainly use it to compose music for theater plays.
* WizooVerb by Wizoo, a reverb plugin
* TrackPlug by Wave Arts, a parametric equalizer
* Classic Delay by Kjaerhus Audio, a simple and free delay

Let's see how to process the different types of vocals, including volumes, panning, and plugins...

Lead Vocal Line

Backing Vocals

Virtual Vocals

Main Vocal Bus

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MAIN VOCALS

Recording Track - "Dry Lead Vocals" Bus - "Reverb" Bus - "Delay" Bus - "Lead Vocals" Bus

Recording Track

Mono audio track
Panning: Center
Volume: 0 dB
Plugin: Limiter
Destination: "Dry Lead Vocals" bus


When recording my voice, I made sure the recorded volume was around -10 dB to avoid any risk of clipping and to maintain enough headroom. However, since this volume is relatively low, I placed a limiter on the track to boost the signal significantly. This compression helps bring the vocals to the forefront compared to other instruments, though it is obviously not the only factor. My limiter is set with a threshold of -12 dB and a ceiling of -0.1 dB. The track signal is then routed to a bus I named "Dry Lead Vocals." The limiter used is the FinalPlug plugin by WaveArts. This is a paid plugin, which you can replace with George Yohng's W1 Limiter, an excellent free limiter downloadable on this page.

This track is routed to the bus I named "Dry Lead Vocals," described below.

"Dry Lead Vocals" Bus

Source: Lead vocal recording track
Destination: "Lead Vocal Reverb" and "Lead Vocal Delay" buses
Panning: Center
Volume: -23 dB.


The volume is set to a low value because the effects on other buses, which will be added later, will boost the overall volume of the lead vocals. Furthermore, sufficient headroom must be planned to avoid clipping the Master bus at the end of the chain—the bus where all instruments and vocals converge. If the volumes of all buses were at 0 dB, it would obviously cause a major problem on the Master bus, and likely even before reaching that final stage.

Here are the lead vocals as recorded, without effects:


(mp3 file)

The limiter on the track is not activated here, which is why the sound is very quiet.

This raw sound is then routed to two other buses: the bus containing the reverb, and the bus containing the delay. They are described one after the other below, but they are processed in parallel within the sequencer before converging further down the line.

"Lead Vocal Reverb" Bus

Source: "Dry Lead Vocals" bus
Destination: "Lead Vocals" bus
Panning: Center
Volume: -6 dB.


With its volume at -6 dB, the reverb is 6 dB lower than the dry vocals to avoid drowning them out. The goal is simply to add some "air" and ensure the sound isn't too dry.
Here are the lead vocals with reverb.
You only hear the reverb alone here, not mixed with the dry vocals.


(mp3 file)

I used the WizooVerb plugin, a plugin that hasn't been sold for several years but still sounds great. It can still be found in the darker corners of the internet (I don't condone this, but you do as you wish), or you can use other paid or free reverb plugins. They are easy to find, and I suggest a few on this page. I commonly use SIR Convolution, which works with impulses, much like cabinet simulators. But instead of using cabinet impulses, we use room impulses recorded in various locations (from bathrooms to cathedrals, concert halls, or rooms in a house).

Here are the settings used with the WizooVerb plugin by Wizoo:

- I used the "Vocal Church" preset. I reduced its "size" to 28% to avoid the impression of recording in too large a space; the decay time is set to 1.4s and I adjusted the "Width" parameters so the reverb spreads across the entire stereo field.

- The reverb blend is controlled with the "DryWet" knob. At 0%, no reverb is heard; at 100%, only the reverb is heard without the dry signal. Here, it is set to 100% because the reverb plugin is placed on a bus dedicated solely to reverb, which will later be mixed with other treatments (the dry sound and the delay). I only want the reverb sound and nothing else here.

- Using reverb on a voice is common. The dosage is up to each individual, but too much reverb distances the voice, which ends up drowned in the mix. For the lead vocal line, this is not the desired effect; on the contrary, the voice must be brought forward since it often carries the melody.
Wizooverb Plugin
Wizooverb Plugin

"Lead Vocal Delay" Bus

Source: "Dry Lead Vocals" bus
Destination: "Lead Vocals" bus
Panning: Center
Volume: 0 dB


Here are the lead vocals with delay.
You hear the delay added to the dry vocals here.


(mp3 file)

On this bus, I use the Classic Delay plugin by Kjaerhus Audio, a free plugin you can download on this page. The delay adds an echo effect to the sound, which helps fill out the sonic space. Combined with the reverb, this gives the lead vocal line a somewhat atmospheric feel.

The settings as seen in the image below produce an effect where the original sound arrives first (adding to the dry vocals), then a first echo appears after about 1 second, slightly quieter than the dry sound, and then 1 second later, a second echo is audible, but much quieter than the first. In the full mix of the song, it is almost inaudible, but it nonetheless contributes to the overall sound.

Classic Delay Plugin
Classic Delay Plugin

"Lead Vocals" Bus

Source: "Dry Lead Vocals", "Lead Vocal Reverb", and "Lead Vocal Delay" buses
Destination: Main Vocal bus
Panning: Center
Volume: -5 dB


The dry vocal, reverb, and delay buses now all converge into the "Lead Vocals" bus.
Here are the lead vocals with reverb and delay.


(mp3 file)

However, processing is not finished, as we are going to add an equalizer and a limiter.
Same thing, but with an equalizer and a limiter.
Heads up: the volume is much higher.


(mp3 file)

You can see in the image below how I equalized the voice. Specifically, I removed all low frequencies by placing a low-cut filter at 120 Hz. I also lowered the frequency around 1 kHz by about 3 dB, as it contributed nothing to the voice and freed up space for other instruments. Finally, I boosted the 345 Hz, 3.60 kHz, and 12 kHz frequencies by about 3 dB to better highlight the voice in the mix. Of course, these frequencies work for *my* voice and in this specific song, but in another song, the settings would be different. There is no single setting that fits all situations.

The plugin used is TrackPlug by Wave Arts, a paid plugin, but free ones exist, such as Cockos ReaEQ which you can download on this page.




TrackPlug Plugin
TrackPlug Plugin

Next, I applied a limiter with a threshold at -9 dB and a ceiling at 0 dB (thus limited to the bus volume), which significantly boosts the vocals to place them at the forefront of the song.

The plugin used is FinalPlug by Wave Arts, a paid plugin that you can replace with George Yohng's W1 Limiter, an excellent free limiter downloadable on this page.




FinalPlug Plugin
FinalPlug Plugin
That's it, the processing of the lead vocal line is complete. Below, we will see how I proceeded with the backing vocals, then with the virtual vocals. These three vocal groups will meet on the main vocal bus before finishing on the Master bus with all the other instruments of the song.

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BACKING VOCALS

There are two backing vocal recordings; one will be heard on the left and the other on the right of the stereo field. Both backing tracks have the same content, but it is not a copy-paste: I recorded the two backing tracks separately so that they differ slightly from one another.

Recording Tracks - Raw Takes - Reverb - "Backing Vocals 1" and "Backing Vocals 2" Buses - Automation

Recording Tracks

There are two vocal tracks for the backing vocals. I recorded them separately, so they are indeed two distinct recordings and not a simple copy-paste from one track to another.

Mono audio tracks
Panning: Center
Volume: 0 dB
Destination: The 1st track is routed to the "Dry Backing 1" and "Backing 1 Reverb" buses; the 2nd track is routed to the "Dry Backing 2" and "Backing 2 Reverb" buses


As with the lead vocal track, I recorded these two tracks ensuring the recorded volume stayed on average around -10 dB. However, I am not adding a limiter here.

The first backing track is then routed simultaneously to the "Dry Backing 1" and "Backing 1 Reverb" buses, while the second backing track is routed to the "Dry Backing 2" and "Backing 2 Reverb" buses.

"Dry Backing 1" and "Dry Backing 2" Buses

Sources: Backing 1 and Backing 2 tracks
Destinations: "Backing 1" Bus and "Backing 2" Bus
Panning: Center
Volumes: 0 dB


Here is Backing Vocal 1 as recorded without effects:


(mp3 file)

And Backing Vocal 2:


(mp3 file)

Of course, the two recordings are similar, as I tried to sing identically. But since I am not a machine (!), even when trying to do the same thing twice in a row, small differences remain. These aren't really audible but prevent having the exact same sound in both ears. With a copy-paste, if you place a sound on the left and its exact copy on the right, you end up with a mono sound in the end. Whereas with *nearly* identical sounds, you preserve the stereo. Unless you shift one sound by a few milliseconds relative to the other, which then creates a slight chorus effect.

Reverbs are added on two other buses, which will then be combined with the dry sound.

"Backing 1 Reverb" and "Backing 2 Reverb" Buses

Sources: Backing 1 and Backing 2 tracks
Destinations: "Backing 1" Bus and "Backing 2" Bus
Panning: Center
Volumes: -6 dB


Here is Backing Vocal 1 with reverb
You only hear the reverb alone here, not mixed with the raw vocals.


(mp3 file)

And the reverb for Backing Vocal 2:


(mp3 file)

I used the Wizooverb plugin again with the settings shown in the image below. Here are the settings used with the WizooVerb plugin by Wizoo:

- I used the "Cathedral" preset. I set the "size" to its maximum (100%) to achieve a large space effect and give the impression that the backing vocals are in the background. The decay time is set to 2.8s and I adjusted the "Width" parameters so the reverb spreads across the entire stereo field. However, as each backing vocal will only occupy the right side of the stereo field for one and the left for the other, each reverb will remain confined to the right for one and the left for the other. But at this stage, the panning is not yet set, so the examples place the sound in the center.

- The reverb amount is controlled with the "DryWet" knob. At 0%, no reverb is heard; at 100%, only the reverb is heard without the dry signal. Here, it is set to 100% because the reverb plugin is placed on a bus that only processes reverb, which will later be mixed with other treatments (in this case, the dry sound). Therefore, I only want the sound of the reverb and nothing else here.

- The reverb settings are identical for both backing vocals with one exception: for Backing Vocal 1, the "High Freq" parameter is set to 7107 Hz (as seen in the image below), while for Backing Vocal 2's reverb, this setting is at 3600 Hz. This means these high frequencies are not boosted the same way on both backing vocals. This setting is not available on all reverb plugins, but one could reproduce the same effect by adding an equalization plugin after the reverb with appropriate settings. This helps distinguish the two backing vocals a bit more.
Wizooverb Plugin
Wizooverb Plugin

"Backing 1" and "Backing 2" Buses

Sources: "Backing 1 Reverb" and "Backing 2 Reverb" buses
Destinations: Main Vocal bus
Panning: Variable, set by different automation on the two buses. Mostly 70% left for Backing Vocal 1 and 70% right for Backing Vocal 2.
Volumes: Variable, set by different automation on the two buses. Mostly at -10 dB.
Plugins: an equalizer and a limiter on each bus


Here is Backing Vocal 1 with dry sound and reverb:


(mp3 file)

And Backing Vocal 2:


(mp3 file)

I add an equalizer and a limiter, as well as the final stereo placement.
Here is Backing Vocal 1 with dry sound and reverb. It is located on the left in the stereo field:


(mp3 file)

And Backing Vocal 2. It is located on the right in the stereo field:


(mp3 file)

And finally, both together:


(mp3 file)

You can see in the image below how I equalized the backing vocals. Note that the settings are identical for Backing 1 and Backing 2. I cut all low frequencies by placing a brickwall low-cut filter at 125 Hz. This frequency is nonetheless boosted at +3 dB to provide some foundation in the low-mids. I scooped out the mids between 200 Hz and 2 kHz, with a more notable dip of -2.6 dB around 380 Hz. I boosted by +4.5 dB around 3.3 kHz. I scooped by 6 dB around 7.5 kHz and boosted by 3 dB around 13 kHz to bring in some air and brilliance to the backing vocals. Finally, I applied a brickwall high-cut at 16 kHz. There wasn't much useful information beyond this frequency anyway.

The plugin used is TrackPlug by Wave Arts, a paid plugin, but free ones exist, such as Cockos ReaEQ which you can download on this page.




TrackPlug Plugin
TrackPlug Plugin

Next, I applied a limiter with a threshold at -6 dB and a ceiling at 0 dB (thus limited to the bus volume), which boosts the backing vocals a bit to put them at the appropriate level relative to the lead vocal and other instruments.

The plugin used is FinalPlug by Wave Arts, a paid plugin that you can replace with George Yohng's W1 Limiter, an excellent free limiter downloadable on this page.




FinalPlug Plugin
FinalPlug Plugin

Automation

As mentioned earlier, I used automation for the volume and panning of Backing Vocals 1 and 2 in certain places. Here is an example. At about 2'14 into the song, you can hear voices that sound a bit like sighs. To give them movement while the voice lasts, I increased the volume from -18 dB to -10 dB, then brought it back down to -18 dB. At the same time, Backing 1 moves from center to 100% left then returns to 70% left, while Backing 2 moves from center to 100% right and ends at 70% right.
The sound therefore starts at the center and the backing vocals immediately move away to the left and right sides, while their volume increases then decreases.
Here is an example of Backing Vocal 1 automation:


(mp3 file)

Here is an example of Backing Vocal 2 automation:


(mp3 file)

And finally, both together:


(mp3 file)

Automation
Backing 1 and 2 automation, volume and panning
Backing vocal processing is finished. Below, we will look at the virtual vocals. These three vocal groups will meet on the main vocal bus before ending on the Master bus, along with all the other instruments in the song.

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VIRTUAL VOCALS

In addition to the backing vocals, I use voices from the Miroslav Philharmonik software, a VSTi that offers orchestral sounds, including male and female choirs recorded by professionals from a classical orchestra. These voices are not brought to the forefront, but they add a slightly dreamlike atmosphere to the song.

Recording Tracks - "Phil Choir 1" and "Phil Choir 2" Buses - Reverb - Automation - "Philharmonik Choir" Bus

Recording Tracks

Mono MIDI tracks linked to tracks
Panning: Center
Volume: 0 dB
Destination: The first track is routed to the "Phil Choir 1" bus; the second track is routed to the "Phil Choir 2" bus


There are two virtual vocal tracks. These are MIDI compositions and not recordings via a microphone. Each of the two virtual vocal tracks consists of an audio track with an instance of the Miroslav Philharmonik plugin, associated with a MIDI track containing the MIDI score.

Both tracks are made with female choir sounds. The first track consists of choirs performing "oh" vocalizations, and the second track consists of choirs performing "ah" vocalizations.
Miroslav Philharmonik
Miroslav Philharmonik

"Phil Choir 1" and "Phil Choir 2" Buses

Sources: "Philharmonik 1" and "Philharmonik 2" tracks
Destination: "Philharmonik Choir" Bus
Panning: Variable, set by different automation on the two buses.
Volume: Variable, set by automation that changes from time to time throughout the song.
Plugins: Reverb


Here are the virtual choirs 1 without reverb:


(mp3 file)

And virtual choirs 2:


(mp3 file)

Although these voices are samples of real voices, this composition doesn't sound very realistic, as that is not the goal. For example, all the notes flow into each other, whereas real singers would need to take breaks to breathe. But in the context of the song Life, these voices are not highlighted at all; they only serve to fill the soundscape in the background. It is therefore unnecessary to worry about details that no one will ultimately hear. The goal is rather to achieve a pleasant and dreamlike background sound rather than a stunning orchestral choir that grips you.

Reverb

I placed a reverb on each of these same buses, "Phil Choir 1" and "Phil Choir 2".

Here are the virtual choirs 1 with reverb:


(mp3 file)

And the reverb for virtual choirs 2:


(mp3 file)

Here too, I used the Wizooverb plugin with the settings shown in the image below.

Here are the settings used with the WizooVerb plugin by Wizoo:

- I used the Cathedral preset. I set the "size" to 80% to achieve a significant space effect and give the impression that the choirs are in the background. The decay time is set to 2.4s. I adjusted the "Width" parameters so that the reverb spreads across the entire stereo field. At this stage, the panning is not yet set, so the audio examples place the sound in the center.

- The reverb amount is controlled with the "DryWet" knob. At 0%, no reverb is heard; at 100%, only the reverb is heard and no longer the dry sound. Here, it is set to 100%, and since the reverb plugin is placed on the bus where the raw voices arrive, only the reverberated sound will be heard in the song and not the dry sound at all.
Wizooverb Plugin
Wizooverb Plugin

Automation

Still on the same "Phil Choir 1" and "Phil Choir 2" buses, I applied volume automation (with only a few variations throughout the song) and, most importantly, panning automation. The virtual choirs constantly move from right to left, crossing each other, since the automations for the two virtual choirs are symmetrical. When one is on the left, the other is on the right and vice versa.

The image below corresponds to the passage heard in the audio clips; the volume doesn't move, but as you can see, the panning constantly shifts from left to right. This is clearly audible in the clips below.

Virtual Choir 1 Automation:


(mp3 file)

Virtual Choir 2 Automation:


(mp3 file)

Automation
Virtual Choir 1 and 2 automation, volume and panning

"Philharmonik Choir" Bus

Sources: "Phil Choir 1" and "Phil Choir 2" buses
Destination: Main Vocal bus
Panning: Center
Volume: 0 dB.
Plugins: an equalizer


This is the bus where the two virtual vocal buses converge. I apply fairly strong equalization that cuts all low and high frequencies, keeping only the mids around 1 kHz. This ensures they don't occupy too many frequencies, leaving plenty of room for other instruments in the song without sacrificing the quality of the chosen virtual voices. This aggressive equalization doesn't seem to denature the virtual voices, which are in the background of the mix anyway.

Virtual Choir 1 Automation (with EQ):


(mp3 file)

Virtual Choir 2 Automation (with EQ):


(mp3 file)

And finally, both together:


(mp3 file)

The processing of virtual voices is finished. These voices will now join the lead vocal and backing vocals on the main vocal bus, as we will see below.

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MAIN VOCAL BUS

Sources: "Lead Vocal" bus, "Backing 1" and "Backing 2" buses, "Philharmonik Choir" bus
Destination: Master Bus
Panning: Center
Volume: -7 dB.
Plugins: None


The different types of voices from the buses described above converge on this bus: lead vocals, backing vocals, and virtual voices. No plugins are necessary here, as all the processing I needed was applied previously.
Here is the final result of all the voices together on the main vocal bus:


(mp3 file)

Finally, the main vocal bus is routed to the Master bus to converge with all the other instruments in the song.

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Bonivoice
le 26/02/2012 à 20h47

Merci pour toutes ces précieuses infos. Bien à vous.



Gulibert
le 25/02/2012 à 15h12

Bonjour Grebz,

Merci de tes précieux conseils... Mon projet avance grandement. :-) J'ai un PC usagé avec une carte son SB Live et le logiciel Cakewalk v7 (je crois que c'était avant Sonar...) Le musicien qui m'a vendu le système m'a laissé tous les Soundfonts qu'il avait (gratuits ou non).

Si je peux me permettre, j'aurais 1-2 autres petites questions... Je vais acheter un ordinateur portable en supplément pour le studio. J'ai un œil sur un Vaio de Sony (voir le lien pour les specs). Or ce portable possède de belles qualités sonores et graphiques. Celui que j'ai configuré possède 8 Go de mémoire. Bien sûr, Sony prône pour le software Acid ou Sony Studio. Mais là n'est pas le problème (<a href="http://store.sony.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/CategoryDisplay?catalogId=100803;storeId=20153;langId=200;identifier=S_Laptops_F_Family" target="_blanck">Site de Sony</a>).

Considérant la configuration du PC, est-ce que tu crois qu'utiliser la sortie HDMI pour le son relié à un ampli est une bonne configuration ? (si tu as des suggestions...)
Et si j'installe Sonar ou autre logiciel, etant donné que ce n'est pas une carte son SB Live (ce que j'utilise en ce moment), est-ce que je devrais me tourner vers des VSTi ?

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<em>Le choix du séquenceur est très personnel. J'utilise Sonar mais tous les séquenceurs modernes sont recommandables. Reaper n'est pas cher, Cubase est très populaire, Acid, Ableton, ProTools, Studio One sont de bons logiciels... L'offre est vaste et le choix doit se faire en fonction de ses goûts, de ce que possèdent ses connaissances (ça peut faciliter les échanges d'utiliser le même logiciel que les amis), en fonction du prix, en fonction de la réputation du logiciel, de sa simplicité, de sa stabilité...

Pour ton ordinateur portable, il a l'air de proposer un bon processeur, suffisamment de RAM et de capacité disque dur, donc pas de souci. Il est possible de choisir un écran Full HD ou avec une résolution plus faible (et un prix sans doute moins élevé). Étant donné que dans un séquenceur, on a souvent tendance à se retrouver avec plusieurs fenêtres ouvertes simultanément, la plus haute résolution sera la plus pratique.

En revanche, pour la carte son, ça reste une carte multimédia, pas prévue pour faire de l'enregistrement et du mix. Ça marchera, mais ce n'est pas l'idéal, et ça ne sera pas mieux qu'une carte son intégré à un ordinateur "tour" (par opposition à un portable), ou une Sound Blaster. Je recommande vraiment de trouver une interface audio USB externe à un prix correct. Les capacités audio annoncées ont l'air alléchantes sur le papier... pour du multimédia... et pour un portable, mais les enceintes d'un portable, aussi bonnes soient-elles ne peuvent pas remplacer des enceintes de monitoring (l'idéal), un bon casque de studio, ou des enceintes de chaîne hifi de très bonne qualité. Par défaut, il vaut mieux investir dans un bon casque autour de 150 euros (comme un bon Beyer Dynamic).

En ce qui concerne la sortie HDMI, pourquoi pas ? Il faut juste vérifier que la sortie HDMI de l'ampli permet bel et bien de transmettre ensuite le son à des enceintes. J'ai lu à plusieurs reprises sur le Net que certains amplis bas de gamme ne permettaient pas de le faire, et donc qu'on se retrouve avec des enceintes muettes ! À vérifier dans le manuel de l'ampli.

Enfin, pour ce qui est des soundfonts, il faut théoriquement une carte son SoundBlaster pour les utiliser, mais en fait, il existe des plugins VST qui permettent d'utiliser des soundfonts avec n'importe quelle carte son, comme SFZ par exemple. Sauf incompatibilités, ça ne devrait donc pas être un problème d'utiliser tes soundfonts actuels sans Sound Blaster.

Quant aux VSTi, il en existe de très nombreux gratuits sur le Net. Il y en a même tellement qu'il est difficile de trouver ce qu'on cherche exactement, et il y en a de très bons comme de très mauvais. Beaucoup sont des synthés. Il est bien plus difficile de trouver des VSTi gratuits et de bonne qualité qui reproduisent le son de vrais instruments.

Grebz</em>



Cyril All You Bring
le 10/02/2012 à 08h25

Hey !

Comme tu as déjà répondu avec pertinence à une de mes questions, je me permets de t'en poser une autre!

Je possède une carte son Line6 UX2, qui ne possède pas de prise MIDI... Pour enregistrer ma batterie éléctro, acheter un clavier maître est-il la bonne solution ?

Sera-t-il relié a ma carte son ou directement à mon PC ou MAC via USB ?

Que me conseilles-tu comme clavier maître, juste pour éditer la batterie ou synthé sur un VSTi ?

Musicalement

Cyril

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<em>Bonjour Cyril,

Alors là... je suis bloqué. Je n'ai pas trouvé s'il était possible de brancher une batterie électronique en midi directement sur les prises midi d'un clavier maître. En théorie, je ne vois pas pourquoi ça ne marcherait pas, mais je n'ai pas trouvé la confirmation.

Sinon, il existe des interfaces midi seules, à brancher sur un port USB de l'ordinateur. Mais ça fait encore un câble en plus ! :-)
Celle-ci par exemple : <a href="http://fr.audiofanzine.com/interface-midi/e-mu/1x1-Usb/avis/" target="_blanck">Interface USB-midi E-Mu</a> (dans les 35 euros), mais il en existe pas mal d'autres modèles.

En terme de clavier maître, moi j'utilise celui-ci : <a href="http://fr.audiofanzine.com/clavier-maitre/e-mu/Xboard25/avis/" target="_blanck">Clavier Xboard25 E-Mu</a>. Il ne fait que 2 octaves, donc il ne prend pas trop de place sur mon bureau, mais il en existe des versions 4 et 6 octaves (Xboard 49 et 61 touches). En revanche, il n'a qu'une prise midi-Out, pas de midi-In.

Regarde sur <a href="http://fr.audiofanzine.com/clavier-maitre/" target="_blanck">cette page d'Audiofanzine</a>, il y a beaucoup de choix, même si certains modèles de la liste ne sont peut-être plus en vente.

Je ne peux pas vraiment t'aider plus sur la question, bonne recherche.

Grebz</em>



Jackeels
le 07/02/2012 à 22h34

Bravo pour votre site , plein d'infos pour un novice comme moi.
Je viens à l'instant de poser un post sur un forum d'Audiofanzine et je vous le livre tel quel : peut-être aurez-vous de précieux conseils à me donner. Merci.

Demande de conseils pour prise son + config GEAR BOX + LIVE 5.2.2 + PEAVEY VYPYR 3O + UX2 + SHURE SM 57

Bonjour à tous,
Voilà, je dispose du matériel cité en sujet et je cherche désespérément une configuration afin de faire des enregistrements de qualité potable ; j'ai beaucoup de difficultés à obtenir un résultat acceptable, d'autant plus que je ne dispose pas d'enceintes de monitoring (ça va bien faire marrer les puristes...) ni de casque de studio (mais un MAGNIFIQUE Berhinger à 17 Euros). À ce tableau, désopilant pour les puristes, s'ajoute le fait que j'utilise de temps en temps mon peavey comme ampli guitare évidemment, mais aussi comme enceintes : vous voyez un peu le bordel ?
Dans ces conditions, vous allez me dire, faut pas s'attendre à sortir des merveilles et vous aurez raison ! Mais je ne suis qu'un vieux débutant et je n'ai pas tout le matériel nécessaire pour obtenir quelques chose de satisfaisant (pour l'instant). Alors j'en appelle à la bienveillance de ceux qui utiliseraient ce type de matos pour me filer des conseils afin d'optimiser tout ça, notamment au niveau des réglages. Merci, a+.



Cyril All You Bring
le 30/01/2012 à 20h34

Merci pour tes infos, j'ai pu y voir un peu plus clair sur le monde du home studio.
Je possède déjà une carte son line 6 UX2 avec POD Farm, des enceintes de monitoring, j'ai pu essayer Cubase, Audacity et possède Ableton Live et grâce à tes infos, j'ai compris la fonction de certains outils et comme je n'y connais pas grand chose, cette lecture m'a permis de me conforter dans mes idées.
Notamment que Ableton Live était plus axé live... quand je suis dessus, je me fais des sons House pendant une heure pendant que mes amis dansent dessus, mais quand je veux enregistrer, je peine !
J'ai cependant plusieurs questions si tu veux bien m'aider (sûrement basiques mais c'est pas grave !) :
Sur mes enceintes de monitoring, j'ai 2 potards (un sur chacune) "HF LEVEL" qui me laisse le choix entre -2, -1, 0, et +1 db...
Sur quoi cela influence-t-il ?
Où dois-je le positionner ? La même position sur mes 2 enceintes ?
Je n'entends pas la différence lorsque j'écoute simplement de la musique...
Cela a-t-il un rapport avec le "zéro du mal" à ne pas dépasser ???
Et je rencontre un autre problème sur Cubase ou Ableton Live : J'enregistre une piste, genre rythmique, jusque-là c'est cool.
J'enregistre une autre piste en jouant mon solo dessus, je suis calé (bon presque !), et lorsque j'écoute les 2, ma 2ème piste est décalée... Snif, what the fuck ???
Comment régler ce problème sans être obligé de recaler mes 2 pistes par la suite, ce qui est galère !

En tout cas, merci beaucoup pour tes infos claires et précises qui m'ont déjà beaucoup aidées !

Stay rock !

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<em>Bonjour Cyril,

Merci d'être passé sur mon site !

En ce qui concerne les potards HF Level (High Frequency Level) de tes enceintes, il s'agit d'un bouton d'ajustement du volume des hautes fréquences (fréquences aiguës). Ces potards servent à ajuster ces fréquences de quelques dB pour compenser un éventuel problème d'acoustique de ta pièce. En effet, dans les pièces non traitées acoustiquement, ce qui est le cas de la majorité des home studistes amateurs, le son qui sort des enceintes va aller se taper sur les murs, rebondir, et faire un peu n'importe quoi avant d'arriver dans tes oreilles. La précision des enceintes de monitoring sera mise à mal dans une pièce à l'acoustique incertaine. À ta place, je laisserai les 2 potards à zéro. En fait, comme il y a de fortes chances que ta pièce ne soit pas spécialement traitée pour le son (pas plus que la mienne, d'ailleurs), pour connaître vraiment la justesse de tes enceintes et pouvoir ensuite mixer convenablement, tu vas simplement devoir apprendre à connaître ses réactions dans les graves et les aigus en écoutant tes musiques de référence et en cherchant à mixer de manière à obtenir des mixes que tu jugeras proches de ces références. Puisque les disques de professionnels sont mixés et masterisés dans de bonnes conditions, tu peux t'y fier.
En tout cas, cela n'a rien à voir avec le "zéro du mal" qu'il ne faut jamais dépasser. Ce zéro-là est le volume à ne jamais dépasser lors de l'enregistrement. Lors du mix, chaque piste doit aussi rester en dessous de 0 dB (et même idéalement bien plus bas que ça), et la piste master aussi. Tout cela avant traitement (piste sans plugins), comme après (une fois les plugins ajoutés).

Tu ne m'as pas posé la question, mais ceci pourra intéresser des gens :
Le plus important, c'est de placer tes enceintes au meilleur endroit possible, si tu as le choix du placement. Parfois, chez soi, entre la fenêtre, la porte, l'armoire et le radiateur, il ne reste pas vraiment de choix ! Trouve l'endroit le plus approprié pour que les sons stéréo te parviennent bien là où ils doivent être lorsque tu es assis en position d'écoute. Que les sons centrés semblent se trouver en face de toi, que les sons à gauche soient bien à gauche, etc.
Si ta pièce n'a pas une acoustique géniale (si ça résonne un peu par exemple), place tes enceintes de façon à ce qu'elles ne soient pas trop loin de tes oreilles. Quand tu es assis, tes enceintes doivent être si possible à hauteur de tes oreilles, et orientées vers toi. Vous devez former un triangle, toi et tes enceintes. Assieds-toi face à ton bureau, et tends les bras vers tes enceintes (bras gauche vers enceinte gauche, bras droit vers enceinte droite) : tes enceintes doivent être placées à la même distance par rapport à toi, pour que le son de chacune d'entre elles parvienne à tes oreilles en même temps.
Pour mixer, le bon volume est un volume qui ne t'empêche pas d'avoir une conversation normale avec quelqu'un qui serait dans la pièce. Enfin ça, c'est dans le but de protéger ses oreilles et d'éviter la fatigue auditive. Pour vérifier certains détails (ou se faire plaisir), on monte le son, ou même on vérifie au casque, qui agit comme une sorte de zoom auditif.

Alors en revanche pour ton problème de décalage entre deux pistes, je ne sais pas. Un problème de latence peut-être, ou de réglage d'horloge ? Je suis désolé, mais comme je ne possède ni la Line 6, ni Cubase, ni Ableton, je ne vais pas pouvoir t'être d'un grand secours à ce sujet. Essaie les forums du site <a href="http://fr.audiofanzine.com/carte-son-externe/line-6/POD-Studio-UX2/forums/" target="_blanck">Audiofanzine</a>, tu auras plus de chances de trouver des réponses.

Grebz</em>

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